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Made Such a Big Deal about it on the other thread If they are your questions, then take ownership of your questions. I say this with as much humility as I can. Its clear these people have no interest whatsoever in rational discourse. Fundementalists follow the Hadith and traditions of Islam which explain put the Quran in its context. Christians are also called to help those brothers and sisters in Christ who are failing in some substantial matter of living their faith. CareBear: Yall that are tossing the verses, you might want to read the whole thing. Thats where protestantism is really you friend. Nope. Eldad and Modad Now I see you dont have any real reasons either except that he hung up on you in frustration after giving you an extended period of time to make your non point. Foxfire, Whites parting shots are: Scandal (skandalon) something that gives offense or causes revulsion, that which arouses opposition; the cause of ruin or destruction (Isaiah 8:14; Romans 9:33; 1 Peter 2:8) as in: So God will providentially preserve the Scriptures and lead His people to a functional, sufficient knowledge of the canon so as to fufill His purposes in inspiring them, and he provide a mechanism for doing just thatthe Church. Slander is saying something not true, so perhaps you should consider what exactly youre saying before you go shooting your keyboard off. Bingo, Francis 03. If you believe what Our Saviour and His Apostles taught that the Eucharist is the Body and Blood of Christ: Take and eat; this is my body All of you drink of this, for this is my blood (Matt. How are we mere mortal men to know who to believe when they claim to have been so inspired? foxfier, Apologia Radio P.O. Donald, Have you even seen the posts from the Pro-White supporters? Jeff co-hostsApologia Radioand Apologia TV, both of which garner followers throughout the US and internationally. So I hope I help you understand that what James White did is in order of magnitude far worse than your common troll like Edward. Anyone who has listened to Dr Whites personal interactions with those who disagree with him will be struck by his professionalism and courteous treatment of his debating opponents and callers. Using Whites own arguments I will respond to Esau. You means Whites claims that Beckwith couldnt really have read the documents from Trent in his twenties? Is it possible to be a troll on your own blog / website? His Council of Rome? Is the Bible the Only Infallible Rule of Faith? As others have observed in this thread, its not possible to use reason with someone not being rational. You do not compare your interlocutors to Islamists or portray those who urge charity on your part as if they were advocates of beheading those who disagree with them. Planning on becoming a Protestant seminary professor, he started an intensive study of the Bible. On both sides, you will notice the symbols of alpha and omega, as well. Esau, as a limited human, do you have the capacity to consider ALL of the evidence? Yikes. The Dubious Textual Variant, Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing, Chris Pinto vs. James White Debate Summarized, Speaking the Truth Is Dangerous Today/More on Jimmy Akin and Sola Scriptura. You have answered correctly, Jesus replied. May God grant him wisdom, patience, and good humor as he juggles us rabid Cat(holic)s and hands down the faith with the graces he has been given. because the Bible told me to. I really hope that you would read Dr. Whites book. No one should reward this playground-level discourse. Your post was very interesting, but I had the mischievous temptation as in Finding Nemo to say something like You know, for an expert in humor, that wasnt very funny. I can see that Some of us believe that Jesus fed the 4,000 with a few fish and seven loaves through a miracle of God. Ahhh sooooo. Posted by: Churchmouse | Aug 10, 2007 10:51:50 AM. The Church invented the very study called theology and has from the beginning sent out missionaries to convert the Pagan. I find this strange because it seems to me that he has set up the concept of Canon knowledge (mediated) as something which humans possess, something they understand due to the communication of the author. In other words, it assumes either the Author first wrote a portion and then attained infallible knowledge of the canon, or attained both at the same time. Aug. 10, 6:22 pm *wonders how long it will take before the latter part of the charity sign is exercised on himself*. That means the material cannot be evil. (Fellow Catholics, if I, in any way misrepresent the teachings of Christ or the Church, feel free to correct me. Mary: The Vision of Isaiah The second hole is that your comment was in no way a response to mine. Just dont read his blog and you wont be upset ;). Mt 13:15: It also makes an excellent chest tattoo, especially if you choose to also get the Alpha symbol on the other side of your chest. What? I have four of my own to get in bed. Maybe you were under the impression that you were going to be in a safe place to just share your journey and not be challenged? Jill, And the best that Mr. White can do is say I won back in 1995! How about the guy who accused Dr White of multiple errors and deceptions with regards to the teachings of Rome and then phoned in to say he needed to do three months of research to come up with even one. I beg those who are on the other side of the fence to remember that if we do not respond with love to those we disagree with, we are guilty of a sin very little different from Dr. Whites. The Calvinist Club, Sola Scriptura, Purgatory, Purgatory: 1 Corinthians 3 and Tim Staples, Art Sippo on 1 Corinthians 3 and Purgatory, Called to Cyprian Responding to Anders Historical Error, The Audio for the Marian Dogmas Debate has been Posted, Top Ten Reasons NOT to Join the Roman Catholic Church. The only thing that keeps the trolls here is our inability to honestly express gratitude to White for the credit he bestows upon Holy Mother Church and, by extension, us. This is part of what motivates conservative protestants to put such a harsh light on the historic abuses of Rome, because the mindset that occasioned those abuses is still there in latent form. Based on that information, one can then assume that CA is obsessing over White a bit too much which, lets be honest, does fit the general attitude of those around here. Asked for prayer for Dennis Pillay and his wife in South Africa as end-of-life issues confront them, that God would give comfort and strength. Way to major in minors there, sport. Only He knows all of the facts. In other words, he owns up to his mistakes. of Mapname.com customer 3 Actually, could you provide the title of the book??? Even though this design has a lot of elements and colours, it still appears pretty neat and clean. There phone # is (951) 242-4988. In fact, most laws are made-up in the most basic sense. But what about lurkers? Let him be the first not to forgive. I cant keep up with the comments, but this thread must hold the record for number of posts. For shame. There phone # is (951) 242-4988. nothing wrong with that, either The exchange Esau and I are in is outlined in James R. Whites book Scripture Alone. (Two concepts you would do well to look into developing in yourself). degrees from Columbia Evangelical Seminary (formerly Faraston Theological Seminary), an unaccredited online school. That could describe you too Mary Kay The Revelation of Ezra And you are doing nothing against the real issue of Islam! In that respect, StubbleSpark, I appreciate your adventurous thinking, though it seems to me that we do need some lumps to go with our cake. And why am I not surprised?? Dont make the mistake of assuming I hold the same low standard as you. Or even the likes of Jack Chick. He allows those who do not repent to choose freely to go to hell. What Did Jesus Preach - Christianity or Islam? The comparison was made between those who are asking for a charitable attitude from Mr. White, yet do not display it themselves. So much for the perspicuity of Scripture. However, lets not all of a sudden likewise stone a person merely for acting so naturally under those conditions. Dennis most of the comments are either trolls saying random things, or folks refuting them. He has a gift, really. They (or their comboxers) often respond with nasty smears of their own is the director of Alpha and Omega Ministries, an evangelical Reformed Baptist Christian apologetics organization based in Phoenix, Arizona. They had a sacred book that provided an explanation of history which so far transcended every other explanation as to be unquestionable. . For a man who believes in a savior who saves perfectly and not one who simply tries to save but fails and one who believes that all that the Father gives will be found by Jesus; in other words, those who will be saved must be saved regardless of what anyone does. When that is combined with explicit teaching of a superior human caste that controls and defines truth for such an entity, you have no rational ability to differentiate between that and any other political schema aimed at raw authoritarianism. The harted you guys show toward White actually proves the very point he wanted to make in posting those pictures. Actually, I think it was Dr. Beckwith who threw the first stone by calling Dr. White an uncharitable reader. soldiers funerals. SDG, Whites posted pictures should be(have been) over (long ago), in my opinion, unless there is anyone here who would care to go further in the analysis than I. He is the author of more than twenty books, a professor and an accomplished debater. As for those who are not rational, discourse is not the way into their soul. First you assert there is no reason, then you observe it could be done to discredit Catholics. White debates on these very subjects yet I havnt seen someone raise their hand and say I listened to him and hes full of hot air and heres why. This is the same type of answer Dr. Beckwith was giving in his interview with Koukl. 2. Vance, you missed what I was said. Im disappointed. Be willing to plunge headlong into the endless expanse of murky swamp to get where you need to go but do not be willing to luxuriate in it. Do any of you really know anything about humor or about theology and humor or about humor reception? Just who is the you in your comment: Charity does include admonishing the sinner which Jimmy does by shaming Mr. Whites actions. Logic! seeing as you deem him important enough to name your apologetics website after him? I know I dont always). Its amazing what having people around does for how one acts. Your comment is interesting, you completely chastise Jimmy Akin for not debating James White and yet this is the same guy who refuses to debate Robert Sungenis anymore inspite of the repeated requests from Robert Sungenis. Why do so many blog posters respond to earnest posts with which they disagree with sophomoric sarcasm? Just how reasonable, how even logical can this argument be when, in fact: (In normal life, I am an utter mouse until I get to know people well, and will ignore things such as this, since the words do not last long- however, on line I do not have a lisp, nor to the words vanish quickly. It doesnt hurt that much to say, I was wrong. The floral patterns are surrounding the combined alpha and omega motif which is further surrounded by a lovely golden frame. How can you say it is SDGs personal determination when it is you who says it is? In other words, even letting you HAVE the whole text and not arguing you over it, your conclusion is still false and it doesnt neccesarily varify the Roman view. First, this goes far beyond being sometimes offensive. This is a basic inability to conform to moral principles and standards of argumentation, which even Dawkins and Hitchens manage to do despite substantive incompetence. Catholics and Protestants both believe what they say it says. God, in writing the scriptures through the hands of men, seeks to express, present and incarnate Himself to the world in a new way. According to the Catholic Encyclopedia, inspiration is a supernatural fact, known only to God and probably to the inspired writer. Hey, I know how you can tell if youve made a *really* good response! It even goes so far as to deny the idea of an eventual millenial kingdom on earth which gives so much impetus to those protestants dreaming of the immanentization of the eschaton a very gnostic idea. If you dont, then why are you making these extended comments that have nothing to do directly with the thread? Thank you so much for your prayer. Now, I realize that there is tension between Catholics and James White because he challenges the teachings of the Catholic Faith but dont let that distort your judgements. This is a very vague, generalized statement. Charity does not write someone off as a moron who is simply impervious to our brand of truth. Dehumanizing your opponent is jihadi-think. That dissolves to blindly accepting whatever one is told, without reference to the conscience God gave to every human individual, as individuals. 5 days and counting and no one has interacted with Dr. Whites pointsCareBear, August 13, 2007 Who or why is an open question but to claim as some here have that it is a conspiracy to make you all look bad. Registrant Street2: Afterall, how do you know if hes repented or not? Please dont post anonymously. Heisenburg, thats a nice thought. Way towhat did yall do anyway? ___________________________________________ Or less substantive. I dont see that were taught to forgive only those who repent. How does one handle the existing situation where different people/groups disagree on what books are a part of the Canon? Please correct my misunderstandings of this argument. Absolutely. In the lingo of the blogosphere a troll is someone who has no sincere interest in sharing ideas but only wishes to inject invective in order to anger other posters. Watching nations fall and rise. However, I think it is important to note that White was making an analogy. I did do a Google search and found you indeed have credibility. Mary, Ah, you are looking the wrong way. Esau/Churchcat, Silence is the word of the day, it would seem, yet only in relation to pertinent issues. And there never can be. SighI reckon its a tragic cycle of internet violence. Anti-Catholicism rots the mind. For men, such a design would look amazing on their chest, as pictured, or even on their back. Those to Whom they personally Handed down they Faith and their Authority? The Bible & the Quran: Which is the Light to the World? Given, of course, good charity and a clear head from those whom he listens. Again, you imagine. They have quality products with a gospel-centered message. And, yes, we would know that list through divine revelation, or guidance of the Holy Spirit. I hesitated to use the analogy because I knew that it would be taken as something it was not and yet the point is I think a valid one. Those to Whom they personally Handed down they Faith and their Authority? When we Catholics agree, and point out that St Peter was given the authority by Christ Himself, according to the Bible, and we believe it, you disagree (or at least you disagree that that authority is passed down through the ages to the successors of St Peter). 2) While said random posters include those with a less-than-charitable bend (and I make no excuses for them). Scripture is not, me and my Bible alone under a tree or, Soli Scriptura. This does not at all mean we should stop condemning a sinful action. Ray found out about the albino monk assassins weve sent out to stone James White! Huh. James White reply: are you or any of your relatives, friends, aquaintences Romanists? Im not interested in those arguments, nor in the well-blasted trenches of apologetics warfare, which I have avoided throughout, thanks. Briefly commented on the We had a technical problem at the start but managed to get in a full hour on the road once again, this time from West Texas. The images were speaking toward an analogous attitude; namely, a fomented zealotry fueled by uninformed passion (which his subsequent post substantiated). Isnt that a littleobsessive? I follow, specifically, the successor of Peter, because Christ gave to Peter (and only to Peter) the keys of the Kingdom, and promised that the gates of Hell should not prevail against Christs Church. So much for theocracy. http://mp3.aomin.org/JRW/PrejeanCall.mp3 Your opinions dont matter. The answer to your/Whites laundry list is in the Church Fathers, but off the top of my head, I couldnt give you a specific reference. Nor do I need to have read everything hes said about a single topic in order to discuss portions of that topic. Tattoo T-Shirts Alpha Xi Delta. Or would you rather retract the presumptious statement and just admit you jumped the gun while you were getting a little too emotional and excited? 15 And how shall they preach unless they be sent Have you heard the other side of the story? Esau, thanks but I think you were well-spoken here. The Apostles were empowered by our Saviour to forgive sins ill bite again How many videos of Baptists or Calvinists being beheaded by hooded authoritarian Catholics have been uploaded to the Internet? Foxfier, Otherwise, how is one to judge between one list of books and another? I have, however, read some of his recent posts, and the excerpts which you kindly supplied (which, to my mind, at least give us a basis for things to discuss). Petard, meet hoist. Righteousness lifts up, exalts, a people, a nation. Mary Kay- I dont think it will work, since the guy keeps on misusing units of logic at whim. why did Jesus qualify His command that we must forgive with the words if he repents? For one thing Im sure we Catholics agree with a whole lot of his beliefs on basic Christian truths and on many social issues. It is not complete, but it does make one of the acceptable points in this sort of a study of humor reception: if you want something to be generally appreciated as a joke, then put yourself in the audiences shoes, first (its called, empathy or just plain common sense). I believe that if he did something to those who were to succeed him, passing the torch, so to speak, that those who took the torch could then pass it on. I mean, after reading him, i see no real refutation or engaging with his points. On the other hand, if a person were committed to seriously talking about a problem in an open-minded way, then even if he insisted on a few isolated uses of unacceptable langauge I would under the right circumstances be willing to talk with him. why do they not seriously deal with the issues that are presented by Protestant apologists.Case in point please. White has a few errors in his logic, some important, some insignificant. Again, this is flawed because it was constructed on from the basic assumption that the Canon in totality necessarily flows from the creation of scripture, and was not previously known infallibly before. Thats a joke, son. Mary, After all, they ascribe infallibilityindeed, impeccabilityto White in all his dealings with Catholics, as this thread amply bears out. As Zack was pastoring in the summer 2012, he was awakened to the abortion holocaust and has never been the same since. But I do not know what to do about it, how to overcome it. TROUBLE! Phoenix, AZ 85069 At this point, I humbly submit that with reason and logic rendered irrelevant and useless to probe the mystery of God, we would have no applicable tools to interpret scripture either personally or otherwise. I seriously need a projectile vomiting smiley to express my disgust. This applies to both sides in every situation. pro-Catholics. Sorry. The next Catholic who calls for the beheading of James White will see me join you in denunciation. The rest of your armchair apologists are just sitting back flinging the accusations sans any effort to back them up. Oh, so this post here is nothing but a CHEAP DEBATE TACTIC from Jimmy Akin???? Its typically the duty of the accuser to prove guilt. but white really isnt proving anything Dr. I do not post freely in comboxes. Both the alpha and omega are quite prominently depicted with shades of red and some green streaks. They make the divide wider, thereby reassuring those on both sides that they dont have to take seriously the other side or those on it. Council of Ephesus,Session III (A.D. 431),in GILES,252. Final Dividing Line of 2022. That doesnt mean I refuse to read it (or excerpts of it). Ed, do YOU have an urge to say it depends on your interpretation? If he truly thinks his ministry is fulfilling Gods commands, I would hope he would stay clear of this negative teenage banter. Correlation B. Astronomical Data 1. You. Thats why I started quoting blog entries from certain people is their entirety in my responses (for which, ironically, I was then chastised for going on at such length). Their memory isnt infallible. 3. The Vision of Isaiah[17] And then were gonna to Francis Beckwith! I have a list of books I say was divinely inspired. Characterize it pejoratively as such a thing fits the logic and attitude of the mob though Also, there is some point of Catholic history not allowing religious liberty and actually persecuting or killing people. Never argue with a fool, because a third party will not be able to tell the difference. St. Paul said Esua, So youre saying that you would consider (lets say) a racial slur acceptable so long as it wasnt intended as serious even by its author? Foxfier wrote ages ago: There are actually folks who judge a person innocent merely based on an assumption. CareBear, Yes, other than to say it was done so as to forward from jamesrwhite.org to catholic.com. doesnt seem to perceive the inconsistency of their own message. $25. Keep your fallacy out of my doctrine if you dont want my logic in your Church. Foxfier, thanks for your thoughtful response. Wanna try that one again? Dear No Name: I know your heart is in the right place, but why to you feed the trolls? In this case however, we see an individual Protestant apologist who has humiliated himself and his cause by his attitude and behavior. Its the behavior thats troll-like, not the location. Cross-post. So I started off with about 20 minutes or so No, Pete Buttigieg does not have a husband, and no, he and that other guy cannot become parents. To be honest, it troubles me, because I feel like Ive been wasting my time in talking to you (although I hope its not been a waste). I feel if I quote anymore Dr. White is going to sue me. I seem to recall even Aristotle thinking circles in logic might be OK if they were small enough. And Mark 11, If you hold ANYTHING against ANYONE, forgive him, so that your Father in heaven may forgive you your sins. How can the priest know that Ive really done so? Hey, Nonny, use a name, would you? I asked you for a specific example of when you felt that Jimmy misdirected people. Iddo Genealogies If so, why??? Sorry, Im not dead set on assuming the conclusion that they were wrong when I dont find them wrong in the first place. The lack of charity on James White part guarantees that his arguments (and he doubtless has some) will fall on deaf ears. http://209.85.135.104/search Or are you helping White with whatever it is that he wants? That would be me calling you a liar, yes? What makes you think I am refering specifically to Catholics. I suppose I should brush up on my regulations though, that or Mr. Akin should deal with the issues. No one will doubt the sufficiency of Divine testimony to establish the fact of inspiration; on the other hand, no one can deny the need of such testimony in order that we may distinguish with certainty between an inspired and a non-inspired book. But I would ask you to consider, carefully, what you say. Or perhaps the collective memory/prejudice of us protestants is holographicly generating the artifacts of history in question and we will all be saved once we realize it never happened after all. Good idea, though. Another reason there never will be a definitive teaching on whether the salvation of those converting from OSAS will never appear is because it would involve an ecclesial body exercising authority in time regarding matters not settled in Scripture that were always true but never questioned or seriously considered until now. And, as he is becoming more stupid, I can only imagine it as a sign that he is moving closer to Rome I would only add that I think I know where this comes from, or at least where the frustration comes from. uhm I did post at least one specific theological question that White was asking, let me post onf them them from his blog. In this syllogism, Roman Catholic is qualified, ergo it is not a universal, but a particular. Lamech But to claim theres some comparison within Catholicism is a joke. . one King James Bible Only preacher who teaches Lordship Salvation. Theo. Im sure I can list others. On the contrary, the greater the outrage, the more delicious the cake. Blessed Redeemer Have you heard the other side of the story? He also leads Apologias ministry, End Abortion Now, whose goal is to criminalize and end abortion through the work of the local church and state legislation. First tell us, what race are the Germans? Jimmys post points this out very clearly from the outset. That means that I dont think youll find your answers in intellectual debates or discussions. You ducked my accusations until I got sick of it and then started bantering on about how wrong I was. Ergo Z est Y. O Threadhijacker lol, Eileen. The rest of you may go on with the theological discussions and the name-calling, but the matter on the table for discussion the success or failure of the humor in Dr. Then again, maybe not surprising. He wasnt talking to me. Jesus did not write, in a physical sense, any of the books that are included in Holy Scripture surely He could have nade it clear to even the most dense of us (me). Whites explanation leaves that unanswered. Unfortunately for us though, Mr. White seems to demonstrate a less-than-adequate understanding of Gods inspirational work and his process of revelation. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt up until now. . His incarnation is consistent with that. True! Afterall, the societal paradigm for the last half century often seems to be: Nazis are evil; All Germans are Nazis; Therefore all Germans are evil. Do you want a page count, or perhaps a list of sanctioned books? Why did I choose to follow the pope? 1. No, and Im not close enough to any of you, either. Thank you. The Earlier Epistle of John bill912, Anymore ad hominem onel iners or are you actually going to deal with the picture issue and refute me? Duh, thats already been covered in this very thread. Its the Vast Angelwing Conspiracy, Jeremiah! Thank you James White, and God bless you. John D. Im sorry, but that interpretation cannot be accepted as Esau purported that White was attempting to win the debate via posting the pictures and some list of unnamed, unmentioned tactics that have yet to be named or proven to have been employed, but nonetheless still somehow implicate White in some wrongdoing. The Lord turned his life upside down at that time and filled his heart with a passion to end abortion and rescue preborn babies headed to death at abortion mills in the Valley. Lets try this again. Who are you replying to? I havent listened to him. 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